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Gonzaga is in better shape than Washington at the moment and look a lock for the Tourney. UW, on the other hand, is in danger of missing out completely. Follow the action closely right here.
After their one point loss to the Colorado Buffaloes sealed their 2012 Pacific Life Pac-12 Tournament fate, the Oregon Ducks became another victim of the fickle beast that is conference tournament week.
a 22-9 season including 13-5 in conference is good enough to make Oregon around the 10th team outside of the tournament in almost everyone's bracket. They have a RPI of 62 according to ESPN, more than half their wins coming on the road and all under the guidance of first year coach Dana Altman. An 11-5 record over their last 15 games, and a single point from Colorado will more than likely keep them from the dance. As is life.
Oregon's season will not be over though as they will be assuredly heading to the NIT this season, though I'm sure they'd like to be playing elsewhere. Their squad will return a number of players next season and have the experience of this season's success under their belt. Hopefully it can get them into the Dance next season.
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Chris Dobbertean has been bust crunching the numbers and getting the order set for his latest bracketology for the 2012 NCAA Tournament, and unfortunately for the greater Northwest area their teams are dropping like flies as the possible squads making the big dance may have whittled down to just one.
That one team would be the Gonzaga Bulldogs, who remain a lock to make the tournament in the latest bracket. Interestingly enough they've fallen two spots since our last bracket was published, dropping from the No. 6 seed previously down to a No. 8 seed currently, possibly signaling a bit of a lack in confidence in the Bulldogs this season.
As for the Washington Huskies, their loss to Oregon State in the Pac-12 tournament will likely be the deal-sealer on their cinderella status, currently sitting as one of the 'next four out' sitting behind seven other teams that would make the tourney ahead of them. What a difference a game makes.
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There are 68 teams that make it into the NCAA tournament and according to the latest NCAA RPI, Rating Percentage Index, numbers, which are based off of team wins, losses and strength of schedule, the Washington Huskies come in at No. 69, just missing the big dance.
The Huskies finished the season with a 21-10 record and were 14-4 in the Pac-12. When the Pac-12 Conference tournament started, they were given the No. 1 seed, earning a first-round by. They were set to face the No. 9 seeded Oregon State Beavers in the quarterfinals and were defeated in their first tournament game by a score of 86-84. That game likely made the difference between making it into the NCAA tournament and not making it for the Huskies.
The Weber State Wildcats (24-6, 14-2 Big Sky) and the Huskies swapped spots in this latest RPI ranking. Huskies fans may not like the fact hat their team isn't likely to make it into the tournament and according to The New York Times' Nate Silver believes that using RPI is the wrong way to pick teams that make it into the tournament.
The problem, in turns out, is not that computer rankings in general are incapable of perceiving their talent: it's that R.P.I. is the wrong system. Missouri, 16th in the R.P.I. rankings, was instead rated anywhere from the fifth to ninth by the more reliable systems. Cincinnati rated as high as 20th in one system - much better than its R.P.I. rank of 58. And the other systems see Kansas as a No. 1 seed, as most analysts do, while the R.P.I. rankings do not.
It will be announced tomorrow, Selection Sunday, which teams make it in and which teams don't. Washington is certainly on the bubble, but Huskies fans may not want to hold their breaths.
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The Washington Huskies NCAA Tournament lives are hanging by a thread. By many accounts, their loss in the quarterfinals of the Pac-12 Tournament to Oregon State has sealed their fate as a Dance snub and if the selections were made right now, it might not go Washington's way. That said, there are still some moving parts out there and Percy Allen of the Seattle Times' Husky Hoops blog compiled a list of teams to root for today and tomorrow in the hopes the Dawgs can somehow sneak in.
--- Saint Louis and Xavier: They meet today in the semifinals of the Atlantic 10. It doesn't really matter who wins, although a Billikens' victory may provide a residual boost for UW. Whoever emerges must knock off No. 4 seed St. Bonaventure on Sunday in the title game. The Bonnies are 88 in the RPI and would steal a berth from a bubble team such as UW.
UPDATE - Xavier got the win this afternoon, and will move on to play St Bonaventure on Sunday. You must now root for the Musketeers to beat St Bonaventure tomorrow.
--- Long Beach State: The 49ers play UC Santa Barbara at 7 p.m. Saturday for the Big West Tournament title. Initially I thought a Gauchos win would be advantageous for Huskies because they could claim a victory against a NCAA tournament-bound team. However, LBS is 37 in the RPI and if it loses, it will likely steal an at-large berth.
Watch for that tonight.
--- Vanderbilt: The Commodores play Ole Miss at 12:30 p.m. Saturday in the SEC Tournament semifinals. According to Lunardi, the Rebels are the sixth team outside the NCAA tournament and need a pair of wins to steal a spot into the dance.
UPDATE - Vanderbilt got the win, 65-53. Nice.
--- Arizona: I've reversed my thinking on this after a little more study. If the Wildcats beat Colorado in today's Pac-12 Tournament title game, which begins at 3 p.m., then it helps Washington's strength of schedule and gives the Huskies two wins against a team going to the NCAA tournament.
UPDATE - In progress now - Arizona leads Colorado 22-21 with five minutes in the half.
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Every season of college basketball seems to always bring us a few bubble teams that sit right on the cusp of the NCAA Tournament. While some say a bid to the dance isn't that big of a deal and typically leads to an early round exit, look at a team like the VCU Rams. They were the final team selected to the field of 68 last season and ended up in the Final Four.
That team could be the Washington Huskies in 2012. They sit right on the bubble and seemingly every Bracketology update has them either just in or just out of the tournament.
This is not to suggest UW is going to make a Final Four run if they make the tournament, but you just never know with March Madness. And speaking of madness, let's take a look at why the Huskies are such a bubble team and why some folks are so split on the team.
The Washington Huskies once looked like a team certain to go dancing at the 2012 NCAA Tournament, but back-to-back bad losses to the UCLA Bruins and Oregon St. Beavers have put their chances in serious jeopardy. Now the Pac-12 regular season champions are going to be doing some serious nail biting on Selection Sunday. With no games left to play, the Huskies have done all they can do to improve their resumé.
There is no doubt that UW sit squarely on the bubble. Just how much of a bubble team are they? Get this: in one bracket, they are included among the final four teams IN the tournament. In another, they are among the first four teams OUT of the dance.
This is why we love March Madness.
If you go by the eye test, the Huskies certainly pass. They feature two potential lottery picks in their starting lineup, have the size to matchup with just about any program in the nation and can score the ball at a high rate. When one takes a look at their body of work and a few of their computer numbers, Washington isn't nearly as attractive as other teams.
As for the projected bracket that has Washington in, Joe Lunardi of ESPN has the Huskies as a 12-seed playing in the play-in game to reach the first round. Chris Dobbertean of SB Nation has UW just missing the field of 68 in his latest update.
Selection Sunday is set to unveil the brackets at 3:00 p.m. PT.
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The Washington Huskies couldn't make it past their first game in the 2012 Pac-12 Tournament, despite being the top seed and the regular-season conference champs. With the loss, they may have seen their hopes for the 2012 NCAA Tournament go up in smoke. With Friday's elimination of the Oregon St. Beavers, area fans are faced with the possibility that they may be watching the NCAA Tournament without a rooting interest.
Percy Allen of the Seattle Times reports that Washington coach Lorenzo Romar appeared KJR-AM Fiday morning to discuss the loss and he is not confident about the Huskies' chances of reaching the Tournament.
"The conference that you're in is irrelevant," Romar said. "They look at our body of work. the only argument is we won our league. There's other leagues that the winner wins the league with maybe 25 wins and they don't get invited to the big dance because the body of work of the entire league wasn't where it should be. Unfortunately for us, they're going to look at that entire body of work of the league and it could hurt us."
But all is not lost ... or at least, not yet. Bud Withers at the Seattle Times provided a handy guide to teams that Huskies fans Huskies fans need to be rooting for over the weekend. Here's a sampling:
Long Beach State. Pull for the guy, Dan Monson, who took the Washington job then bailed on it back in 2002. The 49ers are a big threat to make it at-large, so you don't need a Big West interloper winning that tournament.
It's a good read and well worth checking out. And it would be nice to have a reason to cheer for the Huskies (by proxy) for at least a few more days.
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The Washington Huskies did themselves no favors by losing to Oregon State yesterday 86-84. Despite being the Pac 12 regular conference champion, the Huskies have a middling profile at best with ESPN's Bubble Watch really taking the Huskies to task.
It's official: Washington fans have absolutely no right to complain about the Huskies' "lack of respect" in regard to their at-large NCAA tournament chances. When you have this resume -- when your best nonconference win is UC Santa Barbara and your best league win (and the only top-75 victory) is at home against Oregon -- you simply cannot afford to end the Pac-12 tournament the way the Huskies ended theirs. Thursday's second-round loss to Oregon State may well spell "NIT" for the Huskies. They have the regular-season conference title going for them and ... that's pretty much it. They're 1-8 against the RPI top 50, 4-8 against the top 100, 6-8 away from their own building, with an RPI outside the top 50. Nothing about this resume screams NCAA tournament team.
Joe Lunardi has the Huskies as one of the last four teams in, which very well could mean that the regular season Pac 12 team gets to enjoy the play-in game to even make the tournament. Right now, every Husky fan should be the biggest Cal fan if they want to be dancing next week.
The Washington Huskies are one of the weakest big conference champions in a long-time. Although they finished 14-4 in the Pac-12, they were projected as a lower seed for most of the past few weeks (Washington was an 11 seed according to Joe Lunardi and Chris Dobbertean of SB Nation).
They did themselves no favors on Thursday. Washington's loss to Oregon State will put them right back on the bubble, and they'll have to sweat out Selection Sunday. Washington has only one win against a top 50 RPI team (Oregon) with seven losses , the Huskies went 6-8 on the road. The loss revealed all the usual deficiencies: An inability to run halfcourt offense, Tony Wroten dominating the ball, and Lorenzo Romar not doing a great job adjusting within the game.
If Washington does make it, they might need to play an extra game. The Pac-12 had only a remote chance of being a one-bid league, but the loss by the Huskies might have greatly aided those chances.
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The Seattle area has a rich tradition of basketball excellence and two of their teams are sitting right on the verge of a bid to play in the 2012 NCAA Tournament. For the Gonzaga Bulldogs, the team may have just lost a heartbreaker in overtime of the WCC Championship, but just about all bracket projections have 'Zaga dancing next week. As for the young Huskies, the team has plenty of work to do despite their regular season Pac-12 championship.
According to the latest Bracketology projections from Blogging The Bracket, Gonzaga will be a six-seed in 2012. This would drop the Bulldogs a spot from their previously projected five seed from over the weekend. As for the Huskies, they are projected to be an 11 at the 2012 NCAA Tournament.
GU has no games remaining on their schedule, but Washington still has their conference tournament to play. The Pac-12 was pretty weak this season, but anything could happen in Los Angeles. A first round exit would likely knock UW out of the picture, and they should probably advance all the way to the championship game to feel good about their chances come Selection Sunday.
The final brackets will be unveiled on Sunday, March 11 at 3 p.m. PT.
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One loss can mean everything at this stage in the season, especially when it comes to where a team will be seeded and in what region.
Just ask the Gonzaga Bulldogs.
The Zags started Monday morning as a no. 6 seed in the Midwest region, according to ESPN's Joe Lunardi in his then-latest Bracketology. But after losing to St. Mary's in the West Coast Conference championship game in a heartbreaking thriller, the Zags have moved down a seed and switched regions altogether.
Lunardi's latest predictions have the Zags in the South region as the no. 7 seed facing the Connecticut Huskies in the first round with the Ohio State Buckeyes possibly lurking as a second round matchup. The Zags went from facing Southern Mississippi to facing a perennial power. Crazy what a day can do.
Meanwhile, the Washington Huskies saw no movement from their no. 11 seed but the Pac-12 tournament will have a lot to say about where they end up.
Both SB Nation's Chris Dobbertean and ESPN's Joe Lunardi have the Gonzaga Bulldogs as a no. 6 seed in the NCAA Tournament. The only difference is they have the Bulldogs in different regions.
Dobbertean has the Bulldogs in the West facing Southern Mississippi in their first round matchup, while Lunardi has the Bulldogs in the Midwest facing a very intriguing Harvard team. Either way, it's safe to say the Bulldogs are in no matter what happens in their conference championship game against St. Mary's.
Washington, on the other hand, is fighting to stay where Dobbertean and Lunardi currently have them. Dobbertean has the Huskies as a no. 11 seed in the Midwest playing Wichita State in the first round, while Lunardi has the Huskies as the same seed only in the West against Vanderbilt.
One thing is for certain, it looks like people see the Bulldogs and Huskies in the same light.
The Bulldogs may have had their streak of conference championships snapped by St. Mary's, but that doesn't mean they won't be embarking on what has become an annual excursion into the NCAA Tournament. As currently situated, Lunardi has the Bulldogs as the no. 7 seed in the East Region, playing a struggling but dangerous UConn team in the first round.
Meanwhile, the Huskies are on the rise and sit as the no. 10 seed in the West Region with New Mexico in the first round. If the Huskies could pull off the upset, Missouri would await them in the second round which would be a tough way to try to get into the Sweet 16.
The Gonzaga Bulldogs are losing their footing. The Washington Huskies are starting to find theirs.
Washington has put themselves at the top of the bubble after another crucial home sweep, including a critical win against Arizona. While Washington is far from out of trouble, they're in a far better spot than they were a week ago as Joe Lunardi's last team in. Lunardi has them as an eleventh seed, facing New Mexico, then the winner of Marquette/Belmont.
Gonzaga slipped when they lost a road contest to USF, which dropped them to a seventh seed and ever closer to the 8th/9th seed of death that kills so many teams. The Bulldogs can prop themselves right back up if they're able to beat BYU on Thursday though.
Oregon is hovering as one of the first four out. But the Ducks can't rest easy unless they win out.
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In a typical year, the Washington Huskies and the Oregon Ducks would be regular at-large Pac-12 teams in the NCAA tournament. Unfortunately, the conference profile is so weak thanks to some bad teams at the bottom and their lame out-of-conference showing. Thus the Pac-12 is not likely to have more than one at-large team.
Joe Lunardi of ESPN released his latest bracketology, and both Washington and Oregon are stuck on the outside. Washington is one of the first four out as the 70th team, and Oregon is one of the last four out (the 76th team). Oregon probably has no margin for error--they need to win almost all their remaining games or capture the Pac-12 tournament. Washington has a better shot, but they almost certainly need to beat Arizona at home to ensure they get in without winning the tournament title.
To read more about Lunardi's bracketology, click here.
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The Washington Huskies are firmly, securely, without a doubt - on the bubble.
The Huskies, who were in last week's SB Nation Bracketology, fell out of the tournament this time around, finding themselves on the Last Four Out list and among a group of five teams to fall out of the tourney in this week's edition.
Meanwhile, Gonzaga is the no. 6 seed in the South Region. As currently situated, a tough 6-11 matchup with Minnesota awaits them with the possibility of having to play a talented UNLV team in the second round and North Carolina in the Sweet 16. Needless to say, that would shape up as one of the toughest routes for any team to make it to the Elite 8.
Gonzaga is 20-4 and on a three-game winning streak with five games remaining on its conference schedule. The Huskies are 17-8 and have won four of their last five but the one loss was a 25-point drubbing at the hands of the Oregon Ducks.
The Gonzaga Bulldogs are in great shape to make it to March Madness once again. Gonzaga is now 16-3 with a big game with BYU coming up. Joe Lunardi of ESPN has its latest bracketology projections out, and Gonzaga is now a sixth seed. They would end up in the Midwest Bracket, where they would face Saint Louis.
Interestingly, Dana Altman has the Oregon Ducks back in contention after four straight victories, beating the Arizona and the Los Angeles schools. Oregon is the first of the next four out, making them the 73rd school overall. You'd have to imagine if Oregon can keep on their winning ways, they have a good shot to make it to March Madness, although in the Pac-12 they'll need to put up as impressive a resume as possible.
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The preliminary fun heading into the NCAA Tournament is the guessing game of which teams will get in and which teams won't. SBNation recently dropped its edition of Bracketology and it currently has the Gonzaga Bulldogs sitting as a no. 8 seed in the East region.
The 8-9 games have always been toss-up games and the Zags are linked to Purdue in this edition. The no. 1 seed that would await the winner - unless an utter tragedy occurs and it falls - are the Syracuse Orange, who would more than likely be the no. 1 overall seed if the brackets came out today. Not an easy task but the Zags are perennially upset-minded and the lower their seed, the more dangerous they seem to be.
The Zags are 14-3 and don't have another tough game until they play the St. Mary's Gaels - one of the three teams to beat the Zags this season - on Feb. 9. The Zags have plenty of chances to improve their record and thus, their seeding in the tournament.
Bracketology 2012: Washington's Tournament Lives Hanging By A Thread
With the St. Bonaventure Bonnies dismantling the Xavier Musketeers 67-56 to take the title in the Atlantic 10 Championship game Sunday afternoon, the chances of the Washington Huskies making the 2012 NCAA tournament became that much worse, leaving them dangerously close to falling off the bubble.
Washington was looking great in the Pac-12 Championship until they fell apart late in the game against the Oregon State Beavers Thursday, leaving them on the outside looking in in most bracketologists predictions, including SB Nation's Chris Dobbertean.
The selection committee for the tournament usually shines in the favor of regular season conference champions, especially from the big six conferences, which is one big thing they have going for them. But with their weak schedule (no victoires over teams with an RPI of 50 or higher) and high number of other schools with similar outputs, you can easily make a case for them not making the tourney as well.
With the Selection Show only a few hours away, just where will the Huskies end up? The NCAA or NIT tournament?
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Mar 11 12:49p by Ernie Pomin